Episode 39

Published on:

5th Jul 2022

S3E4: The Marvel Cinematic Universe: Black Panther

In this episode, Mario Sikora, TJ Dawe and TJ Ingrassia discuss the two films, “Black Panther '' and “Avengers: Infinity War,” focusing on the primary character, The Black Panther. They explore the themes of excellence and aspiration in “Black Panther” as Enneagram Type Three as well as make the case for Killmonger as a Type Three or Type Eight. They also talk about the issues of life and vitality in “Avengers: Infinity War.”

“A big Nine-ish theme that I saw in the movie altogether is the theme of keeping your brilliance hidden. Many Nines have all the talent in the world, and it stays within their own mind or stays within the confines of their own homes or maybe a few people who know them. So there’s often this reticence to shine and there’s reticence to get involved.” - TJ Dawe [19:13]

“He walks into the apartment as himself, but then for a little bit, he actually reverts to his childlike form. And it felt to me like a pretty good picture of… what you read about in a lot of the Enneagram literature is that inside of the Eight is the small, fragile child that they’re protecting.” - TJ Ingrassia [33:01]

“In Eights, vitality gets stunted and they feel this deadness inside, and they’re trying to recapture it in some way. And this is why we see all this exertion, this excessiveness, this extremeness in Eight. It’s this ideal way of trying to capture life again. For me, that was just a big theme in the movie.” - Mario Sikora [1:07:32]


[00:01] Intro

[00:44] This week’s movies

[04:07] “Black Panther”

[07:10] Hosts’ thoughts on the film

[12:36] Marvel movies and Type Eight archetype

[13:13] Ryan Coogler as a director

[15:16] Type Three or Type Nine?

[25:09] Michael B. Jordan as Killmonger

[30:16] The different approaches with the two leads

[37:37] Other characters’ Enneagram Types

[43:57] “Avengers: Infinity War”

[52:27] Hosts’ reactions to the movie

[53:44] Humor with the seriousness

[57:36] The opening sequence

[58:51] Thanos’s Enneagram Type

[1:05:33] The main theme of the movie

[1:10:54] Other Enneagram moments

[1:15:49] Religious themes

[1:17:33] Outro

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About the Podcast

The Enneagram in a Movie
The Enneagram in a Movie Podcast is a fun and informative way to take a deep dive into understanding the Enneagram.

In the third season of The Enneagram in a Movie podcast, Mario Sikora and TJ Dawe are joined by TJ Ingrassia to explore themes related to the Enneagram in a variety of movies, starting with the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

You’ll never see movies—or the Enneagram—the same way!