Episode 21

Published on:

13th Dec 2021

S2 E2: Clint Eastwood and Enneagram Type Nine (Part 2)

Mario and TJ continue their conversation about Clint Eastwood. While known for his tough-guy roles as cops, cowboys, and soldiers, Eastwood as a director actually illustrates the fundamental elements of Enneagram Type Nine. Join Mario and TJ as they discuss Type Nine through Eastwood and three of his movies, “Unforgiven,” “Million Dollar Baby,” and “American Sniper.”

“Again, there’s this idea that Nines are these easy going people and never cause trouble. Nines often like to needle people, right? They like to provoke, but again, they like to do it in a sly sort of way.” - Mario Sikora [34:07]

“That scene you mentioned where he comes home from a rodeo and finds his girlfriend in bed with another man, he gets violent and he throws the guy out. So it’s very easy to see that and think, ‘Wow, there’s no way he’s a Nine, ‘cause Nines are passive and gentle and nice and accepting.’ But the thing about that as you mentioned he was socialized by his father to be tough, and Nines often will take on just ‘What are the things that I’m expected to be? Ok, I will be that.” - TJ Dawe [44:55]


[00:04] Intro

[00:33] About the film, “Unforgiven”

[04:19] Will Munny vs Josey Wales

[11:06] Regret and resignation

[14:10] The second killing

[??:??] Not a glorious ending

[21:47] The next film: “Million Dollar Baby”

[25:04] The Nine themes in this movie

[32:05] The strategies of Points 3, 6 and 9

[34:34] A theme of religion in Eastwood’s movies

[36:00] Final thoughts on “Million Dollar Baby”

[38:56] The final film to discuss: “American Sniper”

[44:50] What TJ saw in this movie

[51:03] Hard time accepting praise

[54:15] Final thoughts on “American Sniper” and Eastwood movies

[58:21] Outro

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The Enneagram in a Movie Podcast is a fun and informative way to take a deep dive into understanding the Enneagram.

In the third season of The Enneagram in a Movie podcast, Mario Sikora and TJ Dawe are joined by TJ Ingrassia to explore themes related to the Enneagram in a variety of movies, starting with the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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